La sfarsitul saptamanii trecute, cafeneaua Van Gogh a gazduit lansarea oficiala a unui nou jucatori pe piata vinurilor: VinChile. Noua companie isi propune sa schimbe imaginea vinurilor chiliene, considerate a face parte, majoritar, din categoria „entry level”, importand si promovand cateva dintre cele mai bune vinuri din aceasta parte a lumii.
„Vrem sa fim, in primul rand, distribuitori de informatie, sa crestem gradul de cunoastere a vinurilor chiliene in general. Nu vorbim despre o companie mare, nici despre volume, din moment ce vom aduce vinuri produse de companii foarte mici, de tip «boutique winery», destinate exclusiv magazinelor specializate si HoReCa”, a explicat Christian Beros, managing director pentru VinChile.
„Chile beneficiaza de cateva conditii naturale care sunt imposibil de gasit in alta parte a lumii. Datorita pozitiei geografice si reliefului, aici nu a existat filoxera, vitele traind pana astazi pe propriile radacini, nu pe butuci americani, iar in prezent nu exista mana, fainare, grindina sau ploi de vara”, a adaugat somelierul Doru Dumitrescu, inca impresionat de recenta vizita efectuata in Chile.
Pentru a deschide apetitul cunoscatorilor pentru vinurile chiliene din categoria premium, organizatorii au ales pentru prima degustare oficiala cativa reprezentanti de cinste ai pietei: Castillo di Molina, Viña Tabali, Viña Estampa, Viña Leyda si Viña San Pedro.
Hi Guys,
Here is our webpage URL where you can find more information about the Chilean wines:
http://www.vinchile.ro
Cheers,
C.
Hi Mr Beros,
Unfortunately the link does not function.
Pentru acuratetea informatiilor: toate podgoriile enumerate mai sus fac parte din grupul San Pedro – Tarapaca,cel de-al doilea producator de vin, in volum, din Chile, care produce vinuri excelente, dar nu se poate vorbi sub nici o forma de «boutique winery». S-ar fi putut vorbi de «boutique winery» daca se vorbea de Montes, Altair, Sideral, Neyen sau Amayna. Mai cu grija cu informatiile, stimabile, ca Chile numai pare departe. Si din cate stie eu, vin chilian bun exista pe piata romaneasca inca din 2007. In felul asta si cu aceasta abordare, tin un pariu pe o sticla de Tabali ca povestea acestui importator se va sfarsi in maximum 6 luni.
@Alexandru – Nu s-a sfarsit, dar nici viitor nu are. am fost joia trecuta la o degustare kla ei la vanj gogh cafe. sase vinuri oferite la degustare, din care doar doua albe (Sauvignon blanc fumee si un chardonay) si un Carmenere (rosu) merita atentia. Prezentarea facuta foarte slaba, fara a captiva publicul, fara posibilitatea sa achizitionezi ceva. Deci a fost ceva de amorul artei, cum te-ai duce la Luvru sa vezi Monalisa, ai vazut-o ti-a placut, si pleci acasa cu mana goala si impresii placute. In schimb, pe terasa de la van gogh , in acelasi timp era sampling facut de Cramele Corcova, cu rose-ul lor. Fapt pt care am zabovit pret de un pahar de sampling si o sticla cumparata (cam piperat pretul de la van gogh 58 ron) si am petrecu o ora foarte agreabila, in parte in compania dlui Damboviceanu. Oricum a fost mult mai placut.
@Ubriacone – cred ca asta vor sa faca : sa vanda vinuri la alt nivel de pret decat cel real, prezentandu-le ca fiind vinuri produse de podgorii boutiq. Plus ca o abordare de genul „primul importator de vinuri premium chiliene” este cel putin necinstita si incorecta.As fi curios sa le vad lista de preturi ca sa ma lamuresc. In contextul respectiv de la Van Gogh, as fi procedat la fel ca si tine. Pacat ca vinuri bune ajung pe mana unor impostori si creaza confuzie in piata.
in aceste timpuri tulburi pana si vanzatori de vin de calitate nu se mai gasesc. nu comentez vinul ci vanzatorii. cam cum ar fi si tzeapa de Samburesti care ma tot streseaza pe bannerele dvstra. ati cumparat domnilor zeama oxidata din 2007 a respectabilului domn Valvis? si ne mai miram de ce tineretul trece pe vodka+redbull…….pt ca iti da aripi (sa pleci din tara)
@bogdan marcu
Ai cumparat Domeniile Samburesti, sau Samburel de Olt? Din ce magazin ai cumparat acidul de baterie? Eu in locul tau as fi pastrat sticla si vinul si bonul, si m-as fi dus peste ei. Personal, cumpar vin numai din magazinele specializate sau direct de la producatori, in cazul vinurilor romanesti sau de la importatori. Ma feresc de „noutati” de genul mentionat de tine fara sa degust inainte si in general nu cumpar vin din supermarket, conditiile de pastrare a vinurilor in supermarketuri este absolut criminal.
N-am gustat vinurile lui Valvis, dar eticheta nu e rea deloc.Chiar asa proaste sunt? Unde se gasesc?
Dear All,
My name is Christian Beros, MD of VinChile and Chilean national living in Romania. I’ll like to clarify some of the points that your readers are referring to:
1) First of all, I don’t like to be called an ‘impostor’, specially by somebody that doesn’t know me, my experience or my work. It’s, the least to say, rather rude. Before commenting about any topic you must be informed and have at least a bit of knowledge about the theme. Therefore, please have a look to our site http://www.vinchile.ro, and also to the latest post in the same webpage, where you will have more info about our wines and ethos.
2) Now, regarding the comments about San Pedro. You are wrong. First, all the wineries you mentioned, are NOT part of San Pedro itself. Viña Tabali, Viña Estampa, Viña Leyda, they are ALL wineries by themselves. Tabali and Leyda are part of VSPT group which is a group of Chilean wineries in which you can also find San Pedro winery, Misiones de Rengo winery and even ALTAIR winery, the same one you mentioned as a ‘real’, ‘small’, ‘boutique’ winery. Vinia Estampa has nothing to do with VSPT, neither with San Pedro at all. Just for your record, a wine group is not the same than a winery which is not the same than a vineyard, neither a wine. So be careful about what you say, if you don’t have the knowledge to back it up or the right use of language.
3) Regarding the misunderstanding about ‘boutique’ wines. If you do research you could find that several definitions exist between the experts, but a common denominator is quality and not quantity. According to eatboutique.com a boutique winery is “… more a state of mind than a number of bottles. „It’s more of an attitude than a location (in which) the whole wine operation just had a sense of purpose that transcended the “business” of producing wine.”. Moreover Rovert Giorgione says: “I truly believe that even some of these huge vinous behemoths can produce wines in a smaller, more specialised way whereby they could be called ‘boutique’. For example, Penfolds, the Australian wine producer has approximately 45 different wines bearing its brand name. However, surely the ‘iconic’ Grange Hermitage certainly fits in with the ‘boutique’ wine model?”
Following the same topic, San Pedro has 5 different labels, being in the top of the list Cabo de Hornos a truly unique, limited and hand- on approach wine. Not a ‘boutique’ wine? Will let the consumers who have tasted it to decide it.
We truly believe that a boutique wine or winery is more the wine maker’s ethos, passion, and philosophy than, as you believe, just a basic matter of size. Again, read before criticise.
4) Regarding the list of ‘boutique wineries’ mentioned in the posts as the ‘real’ ones. Let me go one by one, mainly because I’m Chilean and I know them one by one.
a. First of all, Amayna and Montes, both outstanding wineries – Amayna being a 15.000 boxes producer per year, and Montes around 500.000 boxes per year. We should also highlight the fact that Montes has a large portfolio starting with entry levels like the Montes Classic Series (7 USD the bottle) up to premium wines like Montes Alpha M (70 USD the bottle) and is defined by Montes as an average size winery (not a small one). Moreover, Amayna is owned by the Director of Montes, which at the same time is part of the wine group that produces Napa Angel in Napa Valley (USA) and Kaiken in Chile/ Argentina, not to mention that two of the other partners in the group work extensively with San Pedro wines as well. Does that make the whole business group not to qualify with some of their wines as ‘boutique wines’? I don’t think so.
b. Regarding Sideral, wrong again, Sideral is not a winery but is a wine (a good one) from the vineyard Altair (part of VSPT group as well)
c. Regarding Neyen, yes excellent wine, 5000 boxes production and growing.
d. And in relation with VinChile, please have a look to our wineries, like Villard for example a family winery that was created in 1989 by Thierry as the first ‘boutique’ winery in Chile. You should try The Chardonnay Grand Vin…an outstanding hand harvested wine, internationally recognised; or the Barrel Selection from El Aromo, a family owned winery from Talca region which produces 160000 boxes for export a year. In San Pedro, appart of Cabo de Hornos, you might find 1865, a single vineyard wine, which means a wine that is produced from the vines harvested in a single plot, which are carefully grown by its winemakers, specially for the wine in question. But again, read first, (compare the numbers if you are too worried about sizes) and also taste first, then come back and comment.
5) Regarding Chilean wines in the Romanian market, we know that some of our colleagues have being importing wine to Romania for a while. We are in fact working together with them and with several Chilean agencies in raising awareness and distributing knowledge about Chilean wines. So, again you are mistaking, we are not against them, have a look to http://www.vinchile.ro and you will find out.
6) Finally, regarding our events. Let me clarify the difference between a ‘wine sampling’ and a ‘wine tasting’, the first one being an informal event in which you can taste and also get some of the bottles that are in promotion. We did that the 26th of Aug at Van Gogh as well and it was good, friendly atmosphere and informal chatting. However, a ‘wine tasting’ is something different, is more formal, elegant, organised and structured for people that want to taste a sip of each of the wines and have an impression of their properties and to have the comment of an expert in terms of wine production and terroir properties. That’s why we had Michael Goldner from San Pedro who did an excellent lecture about Chilean wine making. That’s part of the tasting as well ‘learning’, (but maybe is not your style). We got really good impressions from the other guests we had, professional sommeliers, chefs and also wine lovers. I’m sorry if you didn’t fit in any of the groups.
Regarding the comparison with Louvre. Thanks for the compliment, for us wine and winemaking IS an art. And for me Louvre is not the place I visit looking forward for the Mona Lisa sticker for the fridge…I go for the learning experience. I’m sorry if you don’t share the same approach.
7) Finally, regarding prices. I’m 100% sure our price list is highly competitivefor the Romanian market and quality/price relation is superb. But before commenting without knowing, why don’t you send us your email address and we will be happy to send you back the latest wine list, and if one of the events was not what you expected, come to our office and ask for reimbursement, we are happy to hear your complaints, in person, like a proper gentlemen does.
Best Regards,
Christian Beros
VinChile
Mailul meu este alexandru.varzaru@yahoo.com , multumesc anticipat pentru lista de preturi.
Mai vorbim peste 6 luni si daca profetia nu mi se implineste, dau eu o sticla de Casa Lapostolle Clos Apalta (am una din anul in care a fost declarat numarul 1 in Wine Spectator). Ca sa termin lista cu vinuri „outstanding” din Chile: Almaviva,Anakena Ona,Don Melchor, Errazuriz Don Maximiliano, Misiones Cuvee Carmenere, Clos Apalta si inca cateva.
Dear Alexandru,
Thanks for the post. Will send you the price list asap.
Just to summarize, regarding your list: Don Melchor is owned by Concha y Toro (number one producer in Chile). Misiones is part of VSPT Group (number two in Chile) and Errazuriz is also one of the oldest and biggest wineries in Chile. Some of the ones you mentioned are good, some others I would argue not so good. But as a conclusion winery size doesn’t really make a difference. Doesn’t it?
About the betting, I don’t do that. but I will personally invite you for a glass of 1865 wine in March 2011.
FYI: http://www.sanpedro.cl/news-press/news/san-pedro-nominated-for-new-world-winery-of-year-2010-by-prestigious-wine-enthusiast/
http://www.sanpedro.cl/news-press/press/1865-limited-edition-syrah-from-elqui-valley-awarded-5-stars-by-decanter-magazine/
Cheers,
Christian Beros
VinChile
Nu doresc sa intru intr-o polemica despre acuratetea informatiilor furnizate de fiecare dintre noi: am trait 2 ani in Chile si am lucrat intr-o industrie tangenta cu cea a vinului, asa ca as putea sa corectez multe din informatiile pe care le prezinti ca fiind certe. La urma urmei, „good luck” si hai sa vedem ce bem peste 6 luni: Clos Apalta sau San Pedro.